November 19th, 2011 / 64 Comments

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Alrightee so yeah that’s Rob in shock right up there because he cannot believe this post.

Well you all know  how much I’ve been waiting for this franchise to be over and don’t get me wrong, I’m more than ready to see Rob’s career move forward, but I just literally came back from seeing Breaking Dawn Part 1 and I know some of you are anticipating my reaction.  You better sit down because I don’t think you will be expecting this.

As soon as the movie was over I sms’d the girls and said ‘Oh dear … you’re not going to believe this but I loved it”.  Well loved might have been a little over the top, but I did enjoy it.  The critics have been over harsh about this film.  I’ve never liked the book and the book to me is so ridiculous, but I think Condon has done a really good job with what he was given.  I’m not going to do a full review here since I know Michelle is seeing it right now and Vertigo won’t be seeing it until tomorrow.  Lise-Lou saw it on Friday.  So to avoid spoilers for those that haven’t, I’ll put my review after the cut and I suggest you don’t proceed past it.

*WARNING:  If  you haven’t seen the film then don’t continue after the cut” since it contains SPOILERS.   YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*


So I think the main reason I really liked BD Pt 1, apart from the fact that there is so much Edward in this one, is my respect for Bill Condon and his homage to Catherine Hardwicke when Edward is searching the internet for demon babies.  If you’ve seen it you should know what I mean.  I also liked the flashbacks after Bella had been infected with Edward’s venom.  I don’t know – just that little bit of respect right there impressed me.

As most of you know I was disappointed with New Moon and I did not like Eclipse at all.  I’ve only seen that twice in full.  This film I can say I will definitely be going back to see it on the big screen – that’s a hint Vertigo because we will definitely be seeing this together next Saturday.

Rob’s portrayal of Edward in BD was just taken up a notch for me.  I know, Rob can do no wrong in my eyes, but I’m pretty sure the fact that he had filmed Bel-Ami and Water For Elephants just made this performance as Edward so much more.  I loved what he’s done with this character.  I hated what Meyer did to Edward in the book.  This is not one whipped Edward at all.  If I thought smiley giggly Edward was perfection – angry Edward proved me wrong.  Jesus – just that one scene was enough for me.  Finally finally Edward told Bella what he thought.  That right there was enough for me to right any wrongs in this film.  Am I rambling … yes yes I am.  Ok so here’s what I totally think:

I believe the critics have been too harsh, but I understand where some of them were coming from.  Let’s face it, the book/story is far fetched.  Clearly they were not prepared for the insanity that was Breaking Dawn.  Imagine if you didn’t know what was coming and you turned up to watch this film – you would definitely be saying – was Meyers on drugs when she wrote this – what the hell were they thinking with this screenplay.  C’mon you know you would be – I was saying that when I was reading the book. Anyway let’s move on … my comments might be not in sequence because I’m trying to go off memory.

Edward’s Back Story

Oh sweet lord … that is all.  This I cannot wait to own the DVD just to screencap alone.

The Wedding

Sorry I didn’t cry during the wedding scene – clearly I have no soul – isn’t that what people are saying?  It was okay as wedding scenes go, but the speeches – yes well – apart from Edward and Charlie’s – the rest were lame and we could have done without them. I didn’t find them funny at all – maybe I needed to be 14.   Although I can say that I have in fact been to a wedding in real life where the bride’s mother did get up and sing a song like that – so maybe that’s why I missed the  humour … yep it really happened.

I loved where they used Flightless Bird … I know people are saying it’s odd and it ends abruptly – I didn’t find that.  Maybe I was staring at Edward’s mouth too much *shrugsshoulders* and missed it. I’ll pay attention at next screening.

The Honeymoon

Well I knew that they had talked up the honeymoon bedroom scene and it was going to be anything than what they were saying. I mean don’t blink because you might miss it.  It was another faux leg hitch if you ask me.  I thought the trashed bedroom was a little over the top – it didn’t happen like that in the book from my memory – loads of feathers and broken headboard is my recollection.  And it pretty  much almost faded to black – so I doubt we will be getting any R rated extended scene on the DVD.

Again, I may have been distracted by the moles on Rob’s back so let me know if I missed anything.  (Also see comment above about owning DVD & screencapping)

And can I just say here right now again – Rob you did good with the working out – although I’m happy to see you shirtless when you haven’t bothered to work out.  But yeah – Jacob you had nothing on Rob in those scenes …  Jesus Rob you need to walk around in those singlet style tops more often.  OOh sorry got sidetracked there.

Oh and thanks to Ellen I could not help but laugh out loud in the cinema when the bath in the mirror appeared.  I will never be able to look at that scene seriously … I’m sure people thought I was weird.

Can I also point out one of my gripes –  when Bella is sitting in the car on the phone to Rosalie at the airport – I think Eddie kind of notices that – that’s not how it’s supposed to happen.  Just saying.  I also want to say – I like married Edward – he’s all about taking control and whatever talking to the pilot or whoever that was at the airport.

And what about Rob speaking Portuguese what a freakin bonus that was.  Sorry I mean Edward *giggles*.

I’m ignoring the jumping off the waterfall and that because I’ve never been a fan of the Edward running fast special effects – they are just wrong.

And I think Bella needed to cook those drumsticks a little more – no wonder she threw up – there is nothing good about seeing blood in chicken that’s just asking for salmonella poisoning LOL.

The Wolves

I love that they are NOT the focus of this film.  Finally, finally … and for the critics making fun and saying the wolves talking with human voices – well I didn’t find this anything like Scooby Doo because they aren’t talking – they are hearing each others thoughts.  If you read the book you’d know that.  That is all I’m saying about that.  I think the CGI wolves in this one are the best.

Even Boo Boo acting has improved … jesus Vertigo – when you read this – let me know if that’s just the alcohol talking from last night (yes yes we saw Al Pacino and it was amazing).

The Pregnancy

Well the makeup was amazing and I’m glad they didn’t drag this whole pregnancy thing out like Meyers did in the book.

The conversation with Jacob and Edward where he tells him to convince Bella to give up the baby and if not then to kill him.  I’m so glad they didn’t include the – yeah you can  have her on Monday-Friday and I’ll have her on the weekends because that was just insanity.  Um did I mention I thought Meyers was on drugs when she wrote this book.

Here’s one of my criticisms – when Edward was trying to resuscitate Bella – all I kept hearing was Rob talking about the fake body and how real it looked.  Rob – it looked like a fake body to me – just saying.  This is why over promotion can be bad.

I loved how they handled the scene when Edward first hears the baby.  Yeah I really did.  Jesus have I mentioned how much I loved Rob as Edward in this film.  I didn’t think it was possible, I’m happy to be proved wrong.  See people I can eat humble pie too.

I did not  like the creative license of letting Bella hold the baby before her heart gives out … not at all.  [I stand corrected thanks to VioletRoseIV on twitter – this was apparently in the book – I must have wiped that from my memory]

I LOVED what Condon did with the venom going through Bella’s veins.  I think this is another reason why I liked this film.  It was creative but not in an over the top way if that makes sense.


The music in this film did not even register to me.  I still think the soundtrack to Hardwicke’s Twilight is the best and not just because of Rob.  The one thing I did love about this film is the use of Carter Burwell’s themes.  OMG I really felt like I was in a Twilight film instead of a bad music video like the other two films.

Carter’s music is so iconic with Twilight they should have made sure it was in all of them.  It makes me nostalgic.

The Rest

Okay some of the acting is still hard for me to handle … the wigs … oh poor Carlisle is all I can say.  Alice you need to bring it down a notch.  Did Jasper even speak?  I think he had 2 lines.

The scene with Irina … just weird is all I’m going to say and unnecessary and couldn’t they get someone who could act.

I loved Charlie but I always love Charlie.

I think that’s it.  If I remember anything else I’ll add under here as a PS.

Okay now over to you … let me know if you agree/disagree/don’t care/think aliens have taken over my body because you can’t believe how positive some of this was … missed something crucial because I’m sure I have – there is a lot to absorb.

PS.  Stephanie reminded me that I said nothing about the scene during the end credits.  Firstly, the toothpick that brought in the invitation … what the hell was that.  Secondly, I cannot begin to tell you how much I love Michael Sheen and Chris Heyerdahl as Marcus and Caius oops I mean Aro and Marcus.  I’m a little partial to Chris Heyerdahl seeing as I met him in 2009.  He’s lovely.  There Steph … is that okay now *giggles*.

Oh I mentioned this in a comment below.  Can someone explain to me what the hell Bella’s dream was on the honeymoon – I mean I get what the chess was about, but the shaking of the images *scratcheshead*.  I remember in the book she dreamt about a son.

  • Maria
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    Thanks everyone – I have not much recollection of the book because really reading it once was more than enough.

    Oops I think I said Michael Sheen was Marcus – I meant Aro. Thanks again Steph. Obviously I’m so not a twihard LOL.

  • Michelle
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    LOL Maria, me too – once was enough. I was confused with the dream too – honestly I don’t really remember them in the book either – well not clearly. We really do show that we’re not Twihards haha.

  • silvie
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    Yes Maria, I agree with you totally that Rob was responsible directly or indirectly for the other two lifting their game. Reflecting on what I’ve said I believe that Rob is directly responsible for the movie’s success. In all honestly, though I believe the others did a good job with what they had, if Rob hadn’t been Edward I don’t think anyone else could have pulled off the success they all enjoy. And full credit to Rob for having to make the impossible possible. Out of all the actors involved he had to deal with the most complex character, the most complex emotions and the most difficult situations. Rob delivered his role ruthelessly and I have no qualms saying that he was directly responsible its success.

  • Maria
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    HAHA @Steph yes I am going again too … to check of course

  • Maria
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    @Thanks Silvie because we have been saying that for years. In fact it’s the one thing the critics have also been saying even though they don’t like the movie. Rob truly saved this franchise. I don’t believe anyone else could have brought us a better Edward and although he wasn’t the star vehicle to begin with, he definitely is the star of these movies now. I think the franchise may have flopped if it wasn’t for Rob. Yes yes I know that will piss off some of the twifans when I say that, but you just have to look at the box office success outside of Twi and only Rob has truly had it to date – so what does that tell you.

  • silvie
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    Exactly!!!!!The franchise certainly struck GOLD when Rob came along even though they don’t want to admit it. I sometimes sense tall poppy syndrome.

  • Vertigo
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    *standing while doing the slow clap*

    I was so sure I was going to be the only one left standing that hadn’t seen BD and was still convinced I wasn’t going to like it. I thought you guys (Maria, Michelle and Lisa) had lost your marbles coming back and saying it was good. I was like naaa, who are these people. So I’ve kept out of the discussion thread (will read comments later) to ensure I have/had no pre conceived ideas, as well as trying to leave behind my memory of how the book unfolded (that’s a tough one though) and whalla, I have to say that in seeing it today, I am dumfounded as to how much I actually enjoyed it. Don’t get me wrong, there were flaws, but I don’t want to focus on those at the moment because the good far out weighed the niggly bits. I even overlooked the bad hair and makeup because the feel was too busy grabbing my attention.

    I believe there are two things that saved this movie. Rob’s portrayal of Edward (BANG ON BEST EDWARD) and Bill Condon’s ability to prove himself a masterful magician. He managed to get things across that could have been done very badly, but not in this installment of the saga. He took an inconsistent, bizarre and crappy piece of story telling and turned it into something watchable – dare I say enjoyable. It totally flowed and there wasn’t too much clutter – just enough of everyone else so I didn’t need to ceiling watch and an abundance of Edward (finally).
    I must also commend the powers that be (probably Bill again – see how we are on a first name basis now) for sticking to their guns in going cloak and dagger. What do I mean? Ok I loved the fact that they were making out like they were giving everything away in the trailers and spoilers released (well that was my perception), when in actual fact they were keeping the surprises well guarded and as the movie unfolded, made for many a pleasant surprise. And here I’ve been whinging for the past months that they were showing us the best parts *yawn yawn*, when in fact they were distracting us while keeping the best stuff under wraps. So I take my bitching back about the teasers and how the rest of the movie was going to be like sticking needles in my eyes. Well played and yes, I stand corrected – your strategy worked.

    I loved that they brought back some of the old feel, flash backs and especially thrilled to have Carter Burwell’s music take me back to my happy place.
    OMG Edward’s back story (yes in both respects *giggles*), can I get a hallelujah or what! *puuuurrrrrrrr* and Amen.
    And other life altering moments like Rob’s body (HELLO), he gave us the sundies, some gentle bed cracking, spectacular back shots, no need to get into details about how well that fitness regime worked out for you Rob [insert more purring] and then we get the smiles and laughter. Apart from all the deep stuff, how freaking awesome was Rob as Edward! My god, Rob interpreting all Edward’s thought processes and feelings and it was evident that Rob was actually into this one as opposed to Eclipse. I’m floored and am looking forward to watching this Eddie again … and again and again and again …

    I am still processing so will leave this for now – am all over the place and can’t get things down fast enough so am looking forward to seeing what you all thought – whether you hated, loved or are 50/50 about it or what.

    It was interesting seeing peoples reactions when we were leaving the cinema, mostly positive remarks and some people saying it was the best one so far. Like I said before, it wasn’t perfect but it certainly was full of the good stuff. I can’t remember why I was laughing a lot at the beginning, but I was laughing and somewhere along the way, my eyes may of become stingy, but where exactly, at what point? I can’t remember. I think it had either something to do with Charlie or when Bella was flashing back over her life or something. When I see it again this Thursday I’ll probably remember. lol

    side note: I think I just whaffled on a whole lot about nothing.

    I should have just said I enjoyed Bill’s interpretation and Rob’s awesome portrayal as Edward. hahaha

    Very clever with the CGI stuff and the way we got the understanding of what was happening with the venom as opposed to getting a dialogue explaining what was going on. I better stop now because more whaffle is starting to seep through.

  • Vertigo
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    p.s. I can usually tell when a story is interpreted well on screen by taking someone along who hasn’t read the book. This time around there were only a few things I needed to explain and it was mostly evolving around the wolf stuff, so not really a big deal for me. The last two movies however, took me hours to get across.

  • Vertigo
    Posted on November 20, 2011

    p.s. I agree Maria – am hoping that Rob’s onscreen time in BD pt 2 isn’t diluted by all the visitors that come to Forks to play with the Volturi.

    Love reading all your comments, am amazed the majority is quite positive. Thumbs up Bill.

    and p.s. @Vicky, I don’t think we’ll ever build that bridge when it comes to Eclipse. Sad but true.

    ok so when do we get the dvd?

  • Michelle
    Posted on November 21, 2011

    YES, please do not let all those annoying extras take all of Rob’s screen time in part two *glares*

    LOL Vertigo, *nods* re: DVD. Want it now!

  • MichelleC
    Posted on November 21, 2011

    After watching BD last night I’ve hardly slept a wink. My mind keeps looping through images of Rob’s backstory (sheer brilliance), the kiss to Flightless Bird (thank you Bill for saluting Catherine), the gorgeous way Rob brings himself to Edward in the ‘nightie’ teaser scene (oh god I died right there), the Edward and Bella tenderly caressing on the bed scene (Bella’s reflection over the previous night’s activities), Edwards’ linguistics, Edward’s control of the dire pregnancy situation, Edward’s anger that Bella didn’t include him on the life threatening situation he is faced with, Edward hearing the baby for the first time and their adorable moment on the couch, Edward’s desperation to save Bella. Oh god the birth!!
    I saw this screening with two very close girlfriends we are all huge Rob fans (since the Cedric days). All three of us were holding our breath during the birth. We were all reduced to tears during the scene when Edward hears the baby. A beautiful tender moment between Bella and Edward’s – a throw back again to the tenderness that Catherine so richly conveyed in Twilight.
    Rob was mesmerising in this portrayal of Edward. I can’t help but blow an air kiss to Bill Condon I could feel and see the results of their collaboration on Edward’s character development. We all thought the lead performances brought new depths of emotion to their characters. Kristen was superb she is one talented young woman. I felt Rob and Kristen’s on screen chemistry more than ever – perhaps ever so in that touching scene on the couch hearing baby for the first – I really can’t get past that.
    Bill Condon really has presented an unforgettable cinematic experience from might I say difficult source material.
    I’m just hoping Bill will allow us to savour the tender scenes ie between Edward, Bella and Reneesme as a new young family in BD II and not focus too much on the activities on the other clans. For me that’s the heart of the story is the formation of this love that then unifies outsiders together.
    Oh god I simply can’t wait to see Rob’s portrayal of Georges in Bel Ami and likewise Eric, Cosmopolis.

  • annie
    Posted on November 21, 2011

    Went to see it last night with my two sisters in Gold Class as well. It’s interesting because my older sister had read the whole series whilst my younger sister had only read halfway through NM. She hadn’t even bothered to watch Eclipse! I didn’t end uo having to explain anything to her though which was good.

    Just agreeing with majority consensus here- Rob as Edward was brilliant. He looked amazing and the scene where he gets angry with Bella- phwoar. Just loved it.

    I particularly enjoyed the flashback sequence and also the nightmare at the wedding sequence. Thought it was quite camp and I quite liked it. My older sister remarked that it reminded her of ‘Dexter’ and I agreed. I liked those quick jump cuts to possible scenarios- it brought something unique to the film.

    OH! and that line about Edward not really being a virgin the night before the wedding took my surprise. Self-awareness of the series perhaps?

    Sex scene- underwhelming but I’ll take what I can get at this point. I’m counting on Bel Ami and Cosmopolis to up the ante in this area. Think the problem was that every single interview had hyped it up too much and in the end I was left sitting there going ‘that’s it?’. Did anyone else notice Bella’s nipple flash as well? lmao
    Overall, wedding and honeymoon were spot on.
    My other favourite scene was when Edward hears Renesmee for the first time. I had a smile on my face that whole time. Gahhh…

    Birth scene and Bella’s death were done pretty well but I didn’t cry at all (not that I expected myself to). I think it’s because I knew that there is a happy ending afterall.

    So, overall, it’s a good film but not amazing. I gave it a 3/5.

  • Maria
    Posted on November 21, 2011

    Lol @Annie re the nipple – I can honestly say I could not take my eyes off of Rob’s back, biceps, pecs *giggles*

    I knew the sex scene would be talked up – so yeah agree with you – in fact pretty much about everything

    Not amazing but way better than what I was honestly expecting but more importantly bring on Georges and Eric

  • annie
    Posted on November 22, 2011

    @Maria oh trust me I was trying to focus on Robert but ‘the flash’ took me by surprise. *shakes head*

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